This week on Blues Talk we take a look back at Leinster’s loss at home to Munster, the away win over Zebre and preview Sundays ERCC clash with Wasps. We also take a look at the rest of the European action.
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Blues Talk TV – Episode 156 Leave a comment
Blues Talk TV – Episode 155 Leave a comment
This weeks episode takes a look back at Leinster’s bonus point victory over the Cardiff Blues and previews the derby clash between Leinster and Munster in the Aviva Stadium. The team take a look at Leinster’s form under Coach Matt O’Connor and the rest of the weeks news and results.
Blues Talk TV – Episode 153 Leave a comment
This week on Blues Talk we take a look back at Leinster’s bonus point win over Llanelli Scarlets and preview the always difficult trip to Galway to take on Connacht in interpro action. We also discusss the rest of the Guinness Pro12 action this weekend and last.
Blues Talk TV – Episode 152 Leave a comment
This week on Blues Talk we take a look back at Leinster’s loss away to Glasgow and debate whether it was a bonus point gained or matchpoints thrown away. We also take a look back at the rest of an exciting first week back for the Guinness Pro12 and preview the coming weekends fixtures.
Blues Talk TV – Episode 151 4 comments
Irelands only Rugby video blog returns for another season and finds the team previewing the upcoming Guinness Pro12 season for Leinster and the rest of the Irish provinces ,and looking forward to Leinster opening their defense of the title in a reverse of last seasons Grand Final – away to Glasgow.
A Welsh Solution to a Welsh Problem 6 comments
The Welsh predicament and a “British and Irish League”
We all know that there is uproar in Welsh Rugby that is looking like it might tear the pro game in Wales apart completely. As outsiders with a vested interest, via the shared pro 12 league, this could well affect what is effectively our “domestic” league. This has made those of us in BluesTalk mansions think of various external scenarios that might be explored in search of a solution.
As the “silly season” is drawing to a close this weekend with the first friendly matches taking place. We are running out of time for a completely hare brained scheme that would never work so here goes.
If you ask most disgruntled fans of the Welsh “Regions” what would be their preferred outcome, they would answer with an Anglo Welsh or British and Irish league. They like to hark back to the days of Amateur clubs playing English opposition and filling their grounds etc.etc.
Rather than blame regionalisation or unprofesionalism/bad marketing on behalf of the regions for lack of fans travelling to games they blame the quality of opposition in the pro 12. They feel that playing v English teams week in week out would solve their issues with crowd size.
This piece seeks to indulge these opinions or at least follow them to a few possible logical conclusions.
Before we begin I would ask you to suspend your disbelief on the following issues.
- A significant proportion of Welsh rugby fans do not support the “Regions” to begin with, for numerous reasons which we will not go into here
- The Regions are at war with their union, and for any of this to be a runner, the Union would have to be on board.
- The “championship” (2nd tier) clubs in England would be up in arms about any possible “ring fencing” of the top tier of Rugby in England. (More on this later*)
- The other 3 “home” unions would also have to agree to this.
- The premiership and the Pro12 would cease to exist.
- Could we trust the PRL? As they would have a large say in any proposed competition.
- We would have to square the circle between the independent clubs in England and the Union controlled ones in Ireland and Scotland…… And of course what ever we end up with in Wales.
I’m sure there are many more but that is enough disbelief to suspend for now.
One of the main gripes of the Welsh regional fans is that the Pro12 does not work, as fixtures, referees, citing commissions etc. are too hard to organise among the member unions. Would this be easier? (because the PRL would impose their will on the rest) or harder? (Because we are swapping the Italians for the way more vociferous English)
So. To the possible completion…….
Geography is what sells it to the Welsh as they are close to the like of Bath, Bristol, Gloucester etc. So geography is what we will base it on.
Us Irish have to travel overseas to play anyone else anyway so no change for us.
The Scottish could have some shorter journeys eg Newcastle.
The English would also lose their longer journeys (Newcastle to Exeter anyone?)
Basing it on the current Premiership and the Pro 12, with a couple of teams from the Championship to replace the Italians, I have come up with a 24 team competition based on 3 geographical “conferences”
After 14 rounds of home and away the competition “splits in 2”. Top 4 in each conference in one and bottom 4 in the other.
The top layer qualify for the European cup automatically with the remaining place(s) for the finalists (or perhaps just the champions) in the bottom tier.
You then have 10 free weeks of the current season remaining.
6 weeks of round robin where each team plays 4 teams from another conference and 2 from the remaining one.
1st place teams have 5 home and 1 away game.
2nd place teams have 4 and 2
3rd place teams have 2 and 4
4th place have 1 and 5
NRL style playoffs which take 2 weeks before the semi and final weekends.
QED.
Irish and Northern conference
- Connacht
- Edinburgh
- Glasgow Warriors
- Leinster
- Munster
- Newcastle Falcons
- Sale Sharks
- Ulster
Welsh and Western conference
- Bath Rugby
- Bristol
- Cardiff Blues
- Exeter Chiefs
- Gloucester Rugby
- Newport Gwent Dragons
- Ospreys
- Scarlets
London and Midlands conference
- Harlequins
- Leicester Tigers
- London Irish
- London Welsh
- Northampton Saints
- Saracens
- Wasps
- Worcester Warriors
*OK I tried to think of a mechanism where the team with the lowest points was relegated to the English championship, but it was too complex as it could be a non English team.
You could have London Welsh’s spot (as the newly promoted team) up for grabs, meaning the promoted team would always play in the London and Midlands conference. This would ensure that it was always an English team.
Told you it was hare brained.
Personally I would not be in favour of any of it, but at least I spent 90 minutes of my time considering it……..
John Grainger
Blues Talk TV – Episode 148 Leave a comment
In this weeks episode of Blues Talk, we take a look back at Leinster’s hard fought victory over Ulster in the Rabodirect Pro12 Semi-Final and review the other semi-final between Munster and victors Glasgow who will face Leinster in their first Pro12 Final. We take a look at Leinster ‘A’ vs Leeds Carnegie in the British and Irish Cup Final and the squad for Ireland’s summer tour to Argentina.
Blues Talk TV – Episode 147 Leave a comment
This week on Blues Talk we take a look back at Leinster’s win over Edinburgh in a very poor match before rounding up the rest of the news. We then preview Leinster vs Ulster in the Pro12 semi-final in the RDS
Blues Talk TV – Episode 145 Leave a comment
This week on Blues Talk we take a look back at the weekend’s Heineken Cup semi-finals which led to wins for Saracens and defending champions Toulon. We discuss Leinster ‘A’s win over Pontypridd in the British and Irish Cup and look forward to the interprovincial clash between Ulster and Leinster in the new Ravenhill.
Blues Talk TV – Episode 144 Leave a comment
This week on Blues Talk TV we take a look back at Leinster’s nine try victory over Treviso. We also take a look at the rest of last weekends Pro12 action. We preview the B&I Cup semi final against Pontypridd and look forward to Toulon – Munster match up in the Heineken Cup semi-final.
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