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Sometimes, a borrower or a lender be…   Leave a comment

David Nucifora and interprovincial loan deals.

Something which has bothered Irish Rugby fans over the last few years is players leaving to go to French and English clubs, sometimes in positions where other provinces are lacking.

The problems….

  • You cannot, and should not, force a player to go to a team when they do not wish to.
  • Provincial loyalties, which are generally good and positive thing, can manifest as “negative loyalties” to other provinces.

On the first point. Personally I would be against giving a player an ultimatum that they “have to move or they will never be considered for Ireland duty”. However there is a fine line between this and “you would improve your chances of playing for Ireland with game-time at another province”. Let’s face it, if they go to England or France they will be far less likely to feature for Ireland.

This leads into the second point. Some players would rather stay in their home province and wait in line for game time, rather than move to a province with a need in their position. We can not criticise a player for this as it is what stops our top players like Heaslip and O’Brien from taking top dollar from the likes of Toulon and leaving Irish rugby altogether.

That is one thing but an unwillingness to move to another province because of a perception that you have of that province is another thing altogether. Jerry Flannery for example has said in interviews that he would “never have gone to Leinster” while he was obviously happy to go to Connacht. Sean Cronin has done very well out of coming to Leinster and he would have at one stage felt similar to Jerry.

This serves to illustrate that perhaps other provinces are not the same as a players perception of them might be whether positive or negative, and that “loan deals” might be the way to shatter those perceptions.

The solution……

The recent “loan deal” from Leinster to Connacht of two very promising players, Scrum half John Cooney, for the whole of next season, and Lock Quinn Roux, until the end of the year with a possibility of an extension, may just point the way to a new dawn in this regard.

Mentally, for the players, they have not “signed” for Connacht so they have an opportunity to sample the delights of Galway without committing themselves. Obviously they will have to commit themselves on a week in week out basis from a playing perspective but not permanently.

For Leinster, their players will get crucial gametime while they still retain control of them. Roux for example could well return in January 2015 depending on our situation with injury and international call ups. For Connacht they get 2 very promising players with very few strings.

Win. Win. Win you would think…..

Some provincial fans would resent this system though and say. “Why should we develop players who will end up in another province”

Such people should really decide whether they are Irish Rugby fans or Provincial Rugby fans. Even if they decide that they support Province over Country, they would do well to remember that Irish Rugby is structured from the top down and not like England and France where the Clubs are completelyseparate entities.

Some of them would be the very people to cite the advantages of having unions in control of the game rather that private clubs. Sure there are downsides, like having to rest international players on demand, having less control over signings etc.etc. But the upsides outweigh the downsides I would have thought.

Currently Leinster seem to be churning out a lot of Tight head props. We have Martin Moore and Tadhg Furlong who look like they could play for both Leinster and Ireland for many years and behind them now are Terenure’s Craig Trenier, Blackrock’s Jeremy Loughman and Roscrea’s Oisin Heffernan.

None of these are in the Leinster academy yet, but there are rumours of the first 2 heading north to Ulster.

Is this a bad thing? Surely it is better to keep them in the overall IRFU system than ship them off to a French D2 side, Rotherham or even London Irish? They can always return to Leinster should the opportunity arise, and they would not be “lost to Irish Rugby” in the way that a talent like Niall Morris might be.

When all 4 provinces have players falling out of trees in every position there will be time enough to export some……

So, in summary, perhaps the inclusion of a “foreigner” as the performance director of Irish Rugby (rather than David Humphreys for example) may facilitate these moves with a lack of “perceived” provincial bias, perhaps some new ideas and the “neutrality” to broker possible deals.

John Grainger

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Blues Talk TV – Episode 140   Leave a comment

This week on Blues Talk we take a look back at Irelands historic win over France in Paris, a win that secured the RBS Six Nations championship for Ireland. We review the game and the season. We also take a look forward to Leinster’s Pro12 fixture with Zebre in the RDS

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Blues Talk TV – Episode 138   1 comment

This week on Blues Talk we take a look back at Leinster’s hard fought victory over the Glasgow Warriors in the Rabodirect Pro12 and discuss the rest of the weekends results. We also preview Ireland’s RBS Six Nations match against Italy, a game that will Brian O’Driscoll’s final appearance in green at the Aviva Stadium.

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Blues Talk TV – Episode 133   Leave a comment

As the RBS Six Nations begins, this week on Blues Talk we preview Irelands first game of the championship against Scotland. We take a look back at The Wolfhounds win over The England Saxons and we preview the rest of this weekends international action

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Same Old Enemy, Same Old Story   1 comment

Well we’re back to square one. After the game against Argentina and the first half against Wales, it looked as if Ireland had turned a corner and were beginning to play to their potential. But the second half against Wales and the entire game against England brought us back to earth with a bang and the vista is no less appalling than it was at the end of the last six nations and the summer tour. The question is why.

Or should that be how? In the build up to the game, particularly after last year in Twickenham, we knew that the set piece – in particular the scrum – would be vital. Well we held our own at scrum-time and even managed to do a bit of damage on the English put in. After a shaky start we held our own at the lineout and broke even and ended up with a superior return to Englands. We also had an edge in the maul and our tackling stats were better than those of the opposition. Given that we had more possession and territory also, then how it all go wrong? Well its simple really. Rugby is a tough game, a tough hard game, and getting your hands on the ball against top quality opposition is bloody hard work, so when you make all those tackles, win those collisions, work hard at the set piece, then the last thing you want to do is give the ball straight back to the opposition. And yet, time after time, thats what we did.

We managed to do it in two distinct ways. There was a period during the first half when it seemed that the Irish players had dipped their hands in some kind of rugby ball repellant. Heaslip alone dropped the ball three times, and although he racked up the highest count, it wasn’t a solo act. When Brian O’Driscoll drops one, its a hint that it might be one of those days. That was unplanned though. The other ways we gave away possession were entirely of our own making. Both outhalfs kicked away ball after ball after ball. For some reason it was considered tactically wise to kick the ball to an English back three containing the two best full backs in the Aviva Premiership. The thinking was, presumably, to play the game in English territory and wait for them to make mistakes, either with the ball or of indiscipline. Its a negative tactic but it has succeeded in the past. However there were two problems with it on Sunday.

Firstly, Ireland were the ones making the mistakes, not England. Lancaster has instilled a clarity of purpose in this England team. Every player in the squad knows what his role in any given situation is, and they stick to it. They have a simple game plan, but one suited to the team meaning they rarely make mistakes. There have been more talented England teams over the last decade, but none since 2003 knows what its doing and why as well as this one does. The second problem is that under Lancaster the ill-disciplined rabble that often took the field under Johnson are a thing of the past. The Haskell binning aside, England gave away very few penalties in kickable positions. When Ireland kicked to them, they drove the ball upfield, though never becoming overextended which can lead to penalties as players get isolated when the numbers available to secure the ball dwindle, before kicking back to Ireland to let us make the mistakes and concede the penalties. The played the way we wanted to play, only better.

Apart from the team performance, very few Irish players can be happy on an individual level. The front 5 battled well, holding their own at scrum and line out, but Cian Healy will almost certainly be paying a visit to the beak this week for his use of the feet in a first half ruck. I was brought up with the ethos that if you’re on the wrong side you deserve what you get, but the Citing Commissioners frown on obvious rucking on the joints. An inch or two either way and Healy would have been fine, but his accuracy will be his downfall. Of the back row, only O’Brien can be happy with his performance. Heaslip, as has been already mentioned above, could not hold on to the ball and whilst he was the top Irish tackler, his effectiveness as a ball carrier was entirely negated by his slippery hands. O’Mahoney put in a mirror image performance of that of his captain, despite a couple of yardage grabbing carries, his work without the ball was reminiscent of Neil Francis in all his pomp. When you’re out tackled by Ronan O’Gara, its time to take a long hard look at yourself.

The half backs as a unit were mediocre at best. Murray box kicked well, always giving his runners a chance to win or at least contest the ball in the air. The presence of O’Gara is an inhibitor on him though. When he’s paired with his senior provincial team mate he takes too much ball on himself, perhaps realising that O’Gara doesn’t possess a running threat. His passing though has returned to the levels of his debut season, which is good to see. Both players who comprised the other half of this unit had games to forget. Johnny Sexton kicked too long too often, and whilst he was more successful in navigating his team into the opposition 22 than his replacement, it was negated by the error count outside him. O’Gara had a poor game. Since the tell in his pass was exposed in the 2009 Heineken Cup semi final, his game has become confined to his formerly undoubted prowess at kicking and simple one out passes. Some might uncharitably suggest that his game was never much more than that, but they’d be wrong. At the tail end of Kidneys first run as Munster coach and under Gaffney, one of Munsters primary moves off line out ball off the top (particularly between Munsters 22 and the 10 metre line) was for O’Gara to hit Mike Mullins at 13 with a hard flat skip pass that had enough length and velocity to take him outside his opposite number more often than not, and the running rugby played by Ireland under O’Sullivan, some of the most expansive ever played by an Irish team, owed much to his distribution skills at pivot. Those days are gone now, however, and his game has constricted in terms of ambition and effectiveness. 5 of his first 6 kicks from play found an English breadbasket without troubling the touch judges.

The bench had a significant role in this match also, either by what contributed, or by what wasn’t there to contribute in the first place. Zebo broke a bone in his foot early in the match, an injury that was like a bucket of cold water being poured over the crowd given the pre match buildup, and was replaced by Keith Earls, who, in his best position, put in an excellent performance. At outside centre he looks well out of his depth, but on the wing he’s a constant threat with his pace, step and power. Earls was a Lion in 2009, and on the wing you can see why. O’Gara also came on before half time, but after that the Irish bench had little to offer. Englands bench however was a different matter. Hartley, Wilson, Lawes/Waldrom and Tuilagi were all introduced all of whom are players with real international pedigree. Some may not be particularly likeable, but they know their way around a pitch at his level.

A number of the Irish players, including the captain, seemed somewhat overwrought by the occasion. The hype in the lead up to the game was huge. The irish media were billing this game as the grand slam decider, as if for either team overcoming France was but a formality, and the winners march to 6 Nations glory would be inevitable. For all that players talk about ignoring the media, its not always possible when despite a midnight sitting of the Dail to liquidate Anglo and talk of billions of euro being saved or not being saved, or whatever you’re having yourself, the game is still the dominant story of the week – such was the level of saturation coverage of this game.

Finally to the coach. Blues Talk has never hid its lack of confidence in the current incumbent, and Sunday has done little to change that. We had our 40 minutes of entertainment against Wales, more than enough for us, and against England it was back to kick, kick, and kick again – and if that doesn’t work, why not try kicking it. Theres not much more than can be said about Kidneys tactical prowess and selectorial skills that hasn’t already not been said by the Irish print media and their sycophantic colleagues in Montrose. But, despite losing on Sunday, and being the losingest Irish coach of the Millennium, should we beat an eminently beatable French team, expect his contract to be renewed to take him through the next Rugby World Cup.

I can hardly wait.

Don’t forget to tune in to Blues Talk TV on Thursday for a detailed review of the game and a look forward to Leinsters game against Treviso, which isn’t being shown on television because RTE spent all their money on chew toys for a rabid George Hook.

Blues Talk TV – Episode 97   Leave a comment

This week on Blues Talk TV we take a look back at Irelands winning start to the RBS Six Nations against Wales and we preview Sundays big game against England in the Aviva Stadium. We also preview friday nights clash in Cardiff between Leinster and The Blues

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